sanchothestoner Love, Thoth, Acid.
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Alright, so last night we went to see Reel Big Fish and we were both rolling.? Before we left to the show, I left a couple things on her bed and I noticed blood and a few cut marks.? We get to the show, we're chillen, and I'm rolling hard enough to confront her about the blood.? Now, she used to cut herself (since like 6th grade) but she told me she stopped.? I tell her about it, and she goes on how she's not doing it to harm her self, more as a reality check.? After a long talk, we stopped talking about it and tried to enjoy ourselves.? Fast forward to after the show at her house, she tells me to not worry about her cutting and she doesn't do it much anymore, and that the reason she decide to cut again was because her ex asshole boyfriend has been talking mad shit about her.
So shroomery, what can I do to help her? I really love her and I want her to be ok.? She has some pretty hefty issues she needs to deal with.? She tells me to not worry and it's not my responsibility to help her, but I want to.? I want everyone to be happy, but I can't make everyone happy.? If I could at least help the people I love, that'd be enough, but it seems like I can't even help them... 
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sanchothestoner Love, Thoth, Acid.
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Please help!!! It pains me so much that she does this! I need advice!
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sanchothestoner Love, Thoth, Acid.
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How do you think an acid trip would effect her? I'm hoping it might show her the light, but I fear that she'll be refusing the light and might spiral her into a bad trip.......... GAH!!! I feel terrible about this! All I want is to help the girl I love!
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Sounds to me like she needs other ways to vent her emotions/frustrations. Not sure if an acid trip is the first thing I'd try, to be honest. Drugs are rarely the answer.
Does your gf do any form of physical exercise?
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No, i think she has some real issues deep inside she needs to confront.
She needs a lot more help than an acid trip.
Has she ever seen a therapist?
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sanchothestoner Love, Thoth, Acid.
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koraks said:
Sounds to me like she needs other ways to vent her emotions/frustrations. Not sure if an acid trip is the first thing I'd try, to be honest. Drugs are rarely the answer.Does your gf do any form of physical exercise?
We hike and go on long walks, but that's it.? I'm going to start taking her to yoga with me.
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No, i think she has some real issues deep inside she needs to confront.
She needs a lot more help than an acid trip.
Has she ever seen a therapist?
She has seen therapists and been on anti-depressants and stuff, but she says she wants to fight through the issues, rather than put a band aid over an injury that needs stitches.? I gave her my flower therapists number, so hopefully she'll call.
The reason I ask about the cid trip, is that it's helped me a lot, and other people.? It's not like we're gonna trip to try to help her, we're tripping for my birthday and if she has some revelations, than great.
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iwasaClown Imagining.
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Ok, it just seemed like that was your first option.
Now that you put it that way, i don't think it's a bad idea.
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Get her to start taking martial arts, I know from personal experience (I was a cutter for years) that some people just need some physical pain in order to help them cope... its weird I know but its true. Martial arts will give her a healthy outlet for her frustrations that also helps satisfy that "pain" need. Might also suggest tattooing for her, I've used that as an "emergency" relief method when the urge to cut again gets really intense. I just had a tattoo artist who understood and was pre-payed up with so if it got real bad I could give a call he'd fit me in and that would be that.
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Cut yourself with her and make it a couples thing so she doesn't feel alone.
Naw I'm jokin. I have no clue what you could do. Try telling her as much as you can how much self worth she has in this life and how much she means to everyone in her life.
Maybe she needs to confront some shit from her past. We all go through some fucked up shit but harming yourself or others ain't no way to deal with it.
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Damn that's rough dude. The yoga thing might be a good idea. The acid thing maybe not... Psychedelics helped my mental health a lot but not everyone reacts the same way. I guess just spend a lot of time with her and try to help her see the light and know that you care about her. Life's pretty damn awesome when you've got the right attitude but sometimes it's hard to see that
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Drugs are a bad idea.
How about encouraging her gently to seek professional help? If she is in school this should be "free" and I assume even in dog-eat-dog country we call America there should be low cost to free resources outside of an educational setting.
Pro-tip: Do not stay with someone who admits they have a problem and that they should seek help, but ultimately refuses to even when the opportunity is made easy. That speaks to deeper issues, and despite what you might think you can't help someone who doesn't want to help [gender neutral]self.
sanchothestoner Love, Thoth, Acid.
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I'm really trying to get her to go to my flower therapist.? Acid wasn't my first choice, it's one of my last options.? She's been to therapists, but she said that didn't help too much.? Most didn't really help me either.? Acid is what really helped me... which is why I'm thinking about dosing her.? I try to spend as much time as possible with her, in fact we're going to this vegan place for dinner in a little.? I'm just going to subtly help her and make her feel as awesome as she really is.? SHE'S SO COOL! That's what makes me feel so bad! If I had to describe someone as a "rad chick" it'd be her.?
Thanks SO much for all your advice.
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You try and you cry
They lie and they fly
Trying to put their imprint on the sand
Where as you said "Hey, let's hold hands"
Love is all you need.
moonrockmushy certifiedpoopface
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Be patient and supportive.? This sort of habit is similar to a self-destructive drug habit, and also very common in all sorts of awesome people.?
Don't be hard on her or freak out, but try to steer her towards more healthy emotional outlets.
I think people who recommend acid are nuts.? Acid is fun but it stresses me the fuck out and doesn't leave me feeling more in control of my emotions in the end.
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I think the best thing you could do is have her tell you when the urges are there, so you can help her work through them (which i think is the best you could do for her, but she'll only stop when she's ready to, though you can help her get to that point quicker)
Get her to feel like she can talk about anything and not be afraid/ashamed etc.
i second the martial arts thing, i dont do it anymore, but they are a very good outlet for stress.
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sanchothestoner Love, Thoth, Acid.
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DUDES! So tonight was awesome.? We went to dinner and then we had a very long talk, and she said that she hates to see me worry for her, so she's going to stop.? I told her I understand how hard it can be to stop, and I told her that even though I'd rather she just straight up not cut herself, to start doing it less and less and not as painful.? Luckily, she doesn't even cut deeply anymore, so it's already a step forward.
She knows she has issues but she says that she's not ready to face them, which I can respect.? She said she wants to do acid for the sole purpose of hopefully getting something out it, but she's not gonna force anything therapeutical to happen.? God damn, I love her so much.
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You try and you cry
They lie and they fly
Trying to put their imprint on the sand
Where as you said "Hey, let's hold hands"
Love is all you need.
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sanchothestoner Love, Thoth, Acid.
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I am actually really happy with how things worked out.?
Different topic:
How do you know if you're falling in love?
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You try and you cry
They lie and they fly
Trying to put their imprint on the sand
Where as you said "Hey, let's hold hands"
Love is all you need.
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